Genoa: where our product thinking stands
Businesses get money tasks done by an agent on real banking rails, wrapped in the identity, mandate, limits and audit trail that banks will ask for.
Two deliverables, one core
This is a direction, not a decided positioning. Nobody on the team has demand data; as I put it on the call, there is no business in agentic banking yet.
- First users. Unite's existing business clients for the first 6 to 12 months, most of whom have no agent. Later: businesses that bring Claude, ChatGPT or Grok agents through a vetted gate.
- Why it may matter. A bank's problem is not whether an agent can call an API, but who is acting, on whose authority, within what limits, with what record. Lead's paper (Sept 2026) frames it the same way.
- What it could become. A neutral layer that routes money across many banks, rails and liquidity providers, and the identity and mandate layer partners trust. No single bank will build that for its competitors.
- Not yet claimed. That customers want this, that a hosted product beats bank-direct agents, that we need no licence, or how we make money.
What it takes for an agent to move real money
An agent that does real tasks is an ordinary model with tools and a harness: instructions, connectors, a loop. The model can be swapped. What makes it a financial agent is the authority around it, and that authority has to be issued and checked outside the model (A: "like a two-factor key the agent never generates").
What Lead proposes, in short
- A new "Authorized Financial Agent" category, with a KYA programme for Tier 1 to 4 agents run by five bank functions (financial crimes, legal, enterprise risk, compliance, information security), and oversight levels TRACE-1 to 3. Treasury agents sit at the highest level.
- For partner-deployed agents, which is what ours would be, the bank approves the agent's tier and mandate scope before launch, tags agent transactions in monitoring and keeps a kill switch. Platforms are third-party risk "wrapped in a new UX".
- Agent platforms, orchestration tools and payment networks can carry liability for failures inside their own control.
How much identity, and for whom
| Level | What exists | Who sees it |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | An API user and a machine signer key; no notion of an agent | Only us (roughly Conduit's machine signer today) |
| 1 | Registered agent: ID, named owner, link to the business's KYB, key, purpose, expiry | Us; the bank sees our attestation. Build now |
| 2 | Signed mandate and agent ID passed with each transaction and checked by the bank | The bank. Shape the mandate for this |
| 3 | Network or standard credential (AP2, Visa, Skyfire) | Counterparties that demand it |
The mandate as a token
A mandate is a signed token the agent presents but cannot create or alter. Limits such as "amount used today" are computed by the platform and checked on the bank side, never by the agent. Google's AP2 already publishes a shape (verifiable credentials in SD-JWT, signed by the user or a trusted platform), and Skyfire's KYA tokens are signed JWTs. Both were built for commerce and cards; their fit for bank transfers is unproven.
We build level 1 now and ask each partner which level it needs. Supervision stays with the bank. A bank will accept limits we compute (unverified). Agent-to-agent chains, where authority can only narrow, are out of scope for now. Open tension: if we host the agent ourselves, a bank may simply see a platform making automated payments, like Ramp or Bill.com. The KYA package earns most when outside agents arrive, which we have put later.
Where we sit, in four lines
- 1We sit in the middle. Businesses (and later their own agents) on one side; banks, PSPs and rails on the other. Our product is the trusted path between them.
- 2The cut-out risk is real. Meow runs a live MCP server; Ramp and Zeni sell invoice agents. Each covers only its own rails, so our defence is neutrality across many.
- 3Dedicated agent-money players exist at both ends. Natural and Catena build accounts for agents (Catena has applied for a bank charter); Payman sells a policy layer to banks.
- 4Standards are unsettled. AP2, Visa, Mastercard and Skyfire each define agent credentials. We map to them rather than invent our own.
Full map: eight categories
| Category | Examples | Why it matters to us |
|---|---|---|
| Agent experience platforms | Gumloop | Reference for outcome-first setup, approvals and "lives in Slack and email". Not a money rail |
| Agent money platforms | Natural, Catena Labs, Payman, Skyfire | Closest to us. Natural and Catena hold money; Payman and Skyfire sit as policy or identity layers |
| Business banks and finance-ops agents | Meow, Ramp, Zeni | Proof banks and fintechs can expose agents without us (J's concern). The invoice job is not empty |
| Banks and infrastructure | Conduit, Lead, Anchorage, Column, Rain, OpenFX | Our rails and our gatekeepers. Their rules decide what we ship |
| Identity and payment protocols | Google AP2, Visa TAP, Mastercard Agent Pay, Skyfire KYAPay, FIDO working group | No single standard; keep the mandate mappable |
| Frontier agents | Claude, ChatGPT, Grok | Later channel, through a credential gate |
| Business systems | Email, QuickBooks, NetSuite | Where jobs start and evidence lives; connection depth untested |
| Regulators | FinCEN, CFPB, Fed, FDIC, OCC | Set the identity, liability and supervision terms banks pass on to us |
Two customers and one partner
No interviews yet; these are working personas from the call and earlier research.
Four candidate jobs, scored from the customer's side
Scores are our judgement, not measured. No job is validated with users.
| Job | How often | Pain | Money risk | Tests delegation | Fit for Unite clients |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| J1. Pay supplier invoices by the best route | Weekly | Medium to high | Medium to high: third parties, redirect fraud | Yes | High (hypothesis) |
| J2. Pay contractors in a batch | Monthly | Medium | Medium | Yes, repeated payees | Medium |
| J3. Move and convert between own accounts | Weekly | Medium to high cross-border | Low to medium: money stays in the business | Partly | High (hypothesis) |
| J4. Collect and reconcile incoming payments | Daily | High for small firms | Low: money comes in | No | Medium |
Stay in control: one view of what may happen, what was paid, what is waiting, and a stop button. Banks require it, so it ships with every job. Account opening moves into onboarding: painful but rare, and Lead lists it as high-risk.
Exploratory jobs, parked
- Spread idle cash by yield and risk (team example: $100,000 across Meow, Bank of America and others). Highest oversight level in Lead's model; yield products may carry securities rules; no pain evidence found.
- Agent shops online with a one-time card. Crowded (Ramp, Natural, Stripe). A feasibility question to Rain only.
- Agent's own operating budget for compute and APIs. Volume tiny today.
- Read-only cash and bills report. Safe start, but moves no money, so it tests nothing.
- Bring your own agent through a credential gate. Later channel.
Eight rules we design by
Thesis: a financial agent is an ordinary agent plus authority the platform issues and enforces around it.
- Outcome first, agent hiddenCustomers ask for an action; "agent" is the partner-facing word.Team call; Gumloop's guided setup
- Authority belongs to the platformIdentity, mandate, limits and keys are issued and checked outside the model. The agent never sees secrets and cannot change its own rights.A on the call; Lead; Gumloop secrets; Conduit machine signers
- Rules decide, the model proposesThe model reads invoices and suggests. Deterministic checks approve or refuse, using limits and history from our ledger.Earlier research; A; Lead's call for independent validation
- Approve first, then graduateEvery payment asks at first. After repeated approvals the system proposes a rule and the owner accepts it. Changed bank details are never automatic.Gumloop approval modes; our flow design, untested
- Stopping is as easy as startingPause, narrow, suspend, revoke. Time to full shut-off is measured and reported.Lead; Meow revokes in seconds
- Everything leaves evidenceIntent, mandate, approval, action, outcome, in tamper-evident storage usable for disputes and reporting.Lead; Meow's signed audit trail
- Neutral across providersNo single bank or rail is the product, and the mandate stays mappable to AP2, Visa, Mastercard or Skyfire formats. This is our defence against bank-direct agents.Team call; Lead
- Start narrow, claim littleSmall use cases, explicit permissions, human override, conservative partner governance. No "agentic bank" claims yet.Lead's own stance
What has to be true, most fatal first
- A1A partner bank accepts clients from us because they arrive with identity, mandate, limits and audit. If each agent needs Lead-style five-function review, or banks will not onboard platform-run agents, there is no live product.
- A2Businesses delegate real money, first with approval, then partly alone. If owners never loosen rules, the value is preparation and evidence, not autonomy.
- A3The pain is worth paying for, and someone pays us. Who pays, for what (a fee per payment, a spread on routing, a subscription), and whether it covers liability.
- A4We can carry liability at an acceptable cost. I said it would be ours; one wrong or sanctioned payment could outweigh the revenue.
- A5We can operate without our own licence, inside a partner's programme. Unverified claim from the call.
- A6Routing across providers gives real savings or access one bank cannot offer, and we are not tied to one rail. Today the plan runs on Conduit alone, which could also move up the stack.
Five more assumptions
- A7. A hosted, outcome-first product reaches the many without agents, and bank-direct agents (Meow-style) do not make it redundant. J's concern.
- A8. Conduit works on live: machine signing or unattended payouts, third-party supplier payouts, acceptable compliance delay.
- A9. Unite's clients become design partners, and Unite's brand and team can carry a different experience.
- A10. No single identity standard locks us out within a year.
- A11. Invoices and context can be read reliably from email and connected tools. An engineering risk more than an existential one.
Known, likely, unknown
- Banks frame agent risk as identity, authorization, liability and supervision; Lead proposes tiers and pre-launch approval.Lead paper, a proposal, not law
- Meow runs a live MCP server with scoped access, fast revocation and a signed audit trail. Ramp and Zeni sell invoice agents inside their platforms.Their own pages
- Conduit: machine signers, M-of-N approvals, its own compliance approval on every payout; unattended live signing needs legal sign-off; most payouts need a supporting document; our KYB gates production.Conduit docs
- Agent-money players are funded: Natural over $40M; Catena $30M Series A and a trust-charter application; Payman about $14M with Visa as an investor.News and profiles, secondary
- The team wants "agent" hidden from customers and Unite clients first.Call
- An outcome-first hosted product beats a builder for finance owners.
- Routing across providers is where a neutral platform beats single banks.
- Banks will want at least a level-1 identity and mandate from us.
- Treasury and account opening face heavier oversight than bill pay.
- Moving money between a business's own accounts carries less liability than paying third parties.
- Whether any business wants this and will pay. No interviews yet.
- Our business model.
- Which partner bank, on what terms, at which KYA level, with how long a review.
- Liability and licensing.
- Conduit live limits: machine-only vs unattended, "treasury only" scope, delay.
- Whether routing saves real money, and which second provider.
- Real agent-payment volume. The often-quoted "$28k a day" has no traceable origin; do not use it externally.
Contradictions we are holding
- "Create agent" vs no agent for the customer. Working choice: hide it from customers, keep it for partners. V to confirm.
- Invoices first vs routing, treasury and account opening first. Reconciled for now: routing is the value of J1, J3 covers own-account moves, account opening goes into onboarding.
- Real money now (V) vs a conservative regulatory start (Lead, Conduit KYB). Sandbox now, live gated. J3 may be the safest first live test.
- "No licence needed" (I) vs Lead's view that the bank keeps AML responsibility and treats platforms as third-party risk. Needs a lawyer.
- Banks as distributors (I) vs banks as competitors (J). Meow shows the second pattern exists.
- Hosted agent vs the KYA package. If we host the agent, banks may not need the agent vocabulary at all.
- Neutral routing vs one rail today. The defence rests on many providers; the demo has one.
Who to learn from and watch
Catena, Payman and Skyfire details come from secondary profiles and press, checked 6 Oct 2026; not from using the products.
A sandbox demo of paying an invoice under a signed mandate
Shown first to partner banks and the team, then to a few Unite clients once live access is clear. It should prove three things: to a bank, that a client from us carries identity, mandate, limits, audit and a working stop; to us, that an owner approves, then accepts a proposed rule, and an automatic payment follows; and that routing gives a visible reason to use us.
The flows
If time allows: J3 (convert between own accounts) or J2 (contractor batch) reuse flows 2 to 5. The second routing provider is simulated and labelled as such until we have access.
Gates and scope
- Before live. Our Conduit KYB; legal sign-off for unattended signing; the partner bank's required KYA level and pre-launch review; legal advice on liability and licensing before any real balance.
- Built on. An email inbox, Conduit (KYB, payouts, signing), Slack or email for approvals, a second provider for routing (OpenFX named; not explored). No accounting system needed. Stack choices go to A.
- Out of scope. A "create your agent" builder, treasury and idle-cash allocation, agent-to-agent budgets, agent shopping cards, the credential gate for outside agents, any unique agent name or trust-history claim.
Open questions, with proposed owners
Ordered by how much the answer could change direction. Owners are a proposal.